Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender

From: Cris Daniluk (cris.danilu..mail.com)
Date: Fri Mar 24 2006 - 15:08:22 EST

  • Next message: Kevin Menard: "Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender"

    Just to agree to what has already been decided, I think "incubating" Jeff as
    a contributor is the way to go, to maintain a good precedent going forward.

    And, I can't wait to see his stuff! I am very excited that he wants to be a
    part of the team :)

    On 3/24/06, Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org> wrote:
    >
    > Jeff,
    >
    > True, our project is different from a brand new incubating project in
    > that we have a team and a product. This discussion made this
    > distinction clear to me, as I kept wondering about how casually
    > people ask to become a committer on the incubator list ... this of
    > course would make sense for the *new* new projects.
    >
    > See you on Jira. Not sure if you are subscribed to the dev list,
    > probably a good idea when we start discussing technical issues.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Andrus
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Begin forwarded message:
    > > From: Jeff Genender <jgenende..pache.org>
    > > Date: March 24, 2006 7:18:01 PM GMT+03:00
    > > To: Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org>
    > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Committer status for Jeff Genender
    > > Reply-To: jgenende..pache.org
    > >
    > > Andrus,
    > >
    > > No problem here. My thoughts about the committership were definitely
    > > not to break the rules of meritocracy, and I surely hope I did not
    > > give
    > > that impression.
    > >
    > > My thoughts were the opportunity of Apache incubation where w/in that
    > > time period, you have the ability to add on Apache people to help out
    > > from a committership perspective. This is a common thing at Apache,
    > > where when a project comes in through the incubator, other Apache
    > > committers may show an interest in a project and ask to become a part,
    > > and you are able to put together a team of Apache and non-Apache
    > > people.
    > > So I was really just taking the opportunity to take advantage of this
    > > time to expedite my ability to help out.
    > >
    > > Nevertheless, I am pleased you have such a strong community that cares
    > > about knowing all of the developers. This is great, so yes, please
    > > allow me the ability to submit patches and such and earn my way in. I
    > > think this is the best way to get on board, especially from a
    > > community
    > > perspective...and its the Apache way ;-)
    > >
    > > Feel free to share this with the rest of the Cayenne team.
    > >
    > > Thanks for yours, and your team's consideration..and see you on
    > > JIRA ;-)
    > >
    > > Jeff
    > >
    > > Andrus Adamchik wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Begin forwarded message:
    > >>
    > >>> From: Andrus Adamchik <andru..bjectstyle.org>
    > >>> Date: March 24, 2006 5:41:21 PM GMT+03:00
    > >>> To: cayenne-de..ncubator.apache.org
    > >>> Subject: Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender
    > >>>
    > >>> You are right, I have to concede that I started the vote too early
    > >>> (too eager to get the JPA stuff going I guess :-)). So let's
    > >>> consider
    > >>> this a discussion thread, and postpone the vote till we come to some
    > >>> consensus.
    > >>>
    > >>> Basically there is a dilemma that we need to solve. Jeff hasn't
    > >>> contributed to Cayenne before and thus giving him committer status
    > >>> right now would be against our normal practice. On the other hand he
    > >>> volunteered to do work in the very important area, and we should
    > >>> figure out a good way to do that.
    > >>>
    > >>> So while trust my instincts that this cooperation will work out
    > >>> well,
    > >>> bending the rules is not a good idea. So maybe start with Jira
    > >>> patches, and do the committer vote after we learn more about Jeff
    > >>> and
    > >>> Jeff learns more about Cayenne??
    > >>>
    > >>> What's everyone's thoughts on that?
    > >>>
    > >>> Andrus
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> I'm not sure how to word this delicately, so I'll just go bluntly
    > >>>> instead.
    > >>>> The problem is that I've never heard of Jeff. Indeed, a quick
    > >>>> search
    > >>>> through my local archive of the dev and user lists, going back
    > >>>> about
    > >>>> a year,
    > >>>> show nothing from Jeff at all. So, while he may be very
    > >>>> qualified, I
    > >>>> unfortunately have no way to gauge that. Perhaps a mini-bio
    > >>>> would be
    > >>>> appropriate. Activity in the Cayenne community would be better.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> On the other hand, Andrus has given it his blessing. As Andrus has
    > >>>> done a
    > >>>> pretty good job steering the project thus far and he is the primary
    > >>>> contributor, his endorsement means a lot.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> In any event, I'm all for building up relations with other
    > >>>> projects.
    > >>>> I just
    > >>>> don't have enough information to give this a thumbs up.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> So for now:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Kevin Menard: -0 (binding)
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Although, I'm a pretty open-minded person. If my concerns can be
    > >>>> addressed
    > >>>> in a reasonable manner, I have no qualms about changing my vote.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> --Kevin
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> On 3/24/06 7:28 AM, "Andrus Adamchik" <andru..bjectstyle.org>
    > >>>> wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> Folks,
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Jeff Genender asked if he can become a Cayenne committer. He is an
    > >>>>> Apache committer (OpenEJB and Geronimo) and wants to help us
    > >>>>> with the
    > >>>>> JPA effort and integration with Geronimo. IMO it is great that
    > >>>>> we are
    > >>>>> finding synergies with Geronimo community, so I am excited
    > >>>>> about Jeff
    > >>>>> coming on board.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> My +1.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Andrus
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >
    >
    >



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