Re: Thread safety and Cayenne ( & Tapestry)

From: Robert Zeigler (robert..uregumption.com)
Date: Fri Sep 29 2006 - 13:29:29 EDT

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    The multi-threading going on in tapestry (at least for tap3) is nothing
    more than the "normal" multi-threading in servlet programming: each
    request is handled by a separate thread. The only extra thread tapestry
    (3; can't speak for 4) starts is the "janitor thread" which cleans up
    the pool.

    As Michael Gentry pointed out, this means that if you have a
    DataContext/session, you're generally safe: the behavior by most users
    on pages of most webapps isn't going to create any threading issues,
    because most users send a request for a single page at one time.
    However, thread safety is not guaranteed. Consider the following situations:

      1) Using firefox, a user of your webapp middle clicks on several links
           (depending on your preferences, middle clicking in firefox will
    open the associated link in a new tab in the background)
      2) You use frames (or iframes)
      3) Your site uses ajax (eg; g-mail, where g-mail could be
    simultaneously saving an in-progress e-mail draft while checking for new
    messages)

    Each of those situations may result in concurrent requests ( =>
    concurrent threads) accessing the same session.
    As Andrus said, you'll have to consider the problematic operations and
    manually synchronize.

    Robert

    Øyvind Harboe wrote:
    > Where can I read more about Cayenne and behaviour of objects when
    > accessed from multiple threads simultaneously?
    >
    >
    > We've screwed up a bit(how much I need to find out :-) when using
    > Tapestry + Cayenne, but things work surprisingly well even so. That
    > things appear to work fine is perhaps the scariest thing. I'd rather
    > they'd break immediately.
    >
    > Basically we have multiple threads accessing/modifying a list of
    > CayenneDataObjects.
    >
    > The problems started in our Visit object implementation in Tapestry:
    >
    > class Visit
    > {
    > public List getFoo()
    > {
    > if (list==null)
    > {
    > List l=someCayenneQuery();
    > Thread.sleep(5000); // (A)
    > list=l;
    > }
    > return list;
    > }
    > }
    >
    >
    > Several problems:
    >
    > - There is a race condition. Context switch at (A) and a subsequent
    > getFoo() invocation will will cause any number of someCayenneQuery()
    > method calls thus each thread may be operating on a different list of
    > objects.
    > - Items might be added/removed from multiple threads. A simple
    > LinkedList() is not thread safe, what about something returned from a
    > Cayenne query?
    >
    > - How will a CayenneDataObject respond to multiple threads modifying
    > properties?
    >
    > - How will a CayenneDataObject respond to multiple threads reading
    > properties?
    >
    >
    > Possible solutions for us that I'm pondering:
    >
    > - Read up more on Cayenne to understand the threading model better.
    > Multiple threads reading/writing the same CayenneDataObjects may be
    > fine.
    > - I could single thread all modifications of the session/visit state.
    > - use serialization somehow to create and write back a copy of each
    > object per HTTP request.
    > - Does some framework which can be used with Cayenne & Tapestry exist
    > that can help me address the issues?
    > - Can I make my Tapestry application single threaded? (I believe the
    > answer is Bad Idea :-)
    >
    >



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