Re: Recommendation: GUI Builder for Java Client?

From: Ashley Aitken (aitken..bs.curtin.edu.au)
Date: Mon Mar 22 2004 - 23:53:32 EST

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    Hi Mark,

    Yes, the problem is I am trying to move away from Apple's development
    tools (XCode) particularly, which lacks considerably in its support for
    Java development (over Objective-C development) and even more in
    comparison to other commercial IDEs (eg no refactoring support).

    Further Java client development in Interface Builder is really somewhat
    of a (n impressive) hack. As you probably know, Interface Builder is
    primarily for building NIB-based interfaces that employ the Cocoa widget
    set. It's amazing they can even make it do Java GUI development.

    Also, the Java GUI development is a bit convoluted (from my experience)
    when you move outside the widgets supported by Interface Builder (it
    only maps a subset of its widgets to Java widgets), and has more limited
    support for the rest of the Java widgets.

    It is also doing code generation.

    I would prefer to use one IDE (eg Eclipse) or an IDE tailored to Java
    development (eg JBuilder).

    I hope that makes it clear, your question was a good one though.

    Cheers,
    Ashley.

    PS And, no, using Eclipse doesn't preclude using Interface Builder,
    although IB works best with XCode for full (ie all tier) Java client Web
    applications.

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    >>> Mark Morris <mark..ac.com> 03/23/04 3:34 AM >>>
    I just know I'm missing something obvious in your question, but isn't
    the GUI builder for Java Client (not D2JC) just Interface Builder, which
    comes with the Mac OS X Developer Tools?  Does using Eclipse preclude
    its use?
    

    (Sorry if I'm missing the point. ;-)

    Regards, Mark On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 03:00AM, Ashley Aitken <aitken..bs.curtin.edu.au> wrote:

    > >Howdy All, > >I trust this is not off topic. > >I am moving to Eclipse for the WebObjects server app. However, I am a >little confused about what to do for the Java client application (not >D2JC). > >Can anyone recommend a good GUI Builder plugin for Eclipse? > >I've checked out a few at the Eclipse plugins site but they seem to be >either be commercial or open source beta quality (ie nothing like the >quality of Eclipse itself, or WOLips). > >The alternative is to use something like the free version of JBuilder >for the Java client application, but I hesitate to stretch to another >IDE (although I have some experience with JBuilder). > >Any suggestions or pointers most appreciated. > >Cheers, >Ashley Aitken. > > >



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