Re: Recommendation: GUI Builder for Java Client?

From: Ulrich Köster (ulric..bjectstyle.org)
Date: Tue Mar 23 2004 - 02:24:20 EST

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    Am 23.03.2004 um 05:53 schrieb Ashley Aitken:

    > Hi Mark,
    >
    > Yes, the problem is I am trying to move away from Apple's development
    > tools (XCode) particularly, which lacks considerably in its support for
    > Java development (over Objective-C development) and even more in
    > comparison to other commercial IDEs (eg no refactoring support).
    >
    > Further Java client development in Interface Builder is really somewhat
    > of a (n impressive) hack. As you probably know, Interface Builder is
    > primarily for building NIB-based interfaces that employ the Cocoa
    > widget
    > set. It's amazing they can even make it do Java GUI development.
    >
    > Also, the Java GUI development is a bit convoluted (from my experience)
    > when you move outside the widgets supported by Interface Builder (it
    > only maps a subset of its widgets to Java widgets), and has more
    > limited
    > support for the rest of the Java widgets.
    >
    > It is also doing code generation.
    >
    > I would prefer to use one IDE (eg Eclipse) or an IDE tailored to Java
    > development (eg JBuilder).
    >
    > I hope that makes it clear, your question was a good one though.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Ashley.
    >
    > PS And, no, using Eclipse doesn't preclude using Interface Builder,
    > although IB works best with XCode for full (ie all tier) Java client
    > Web
    > applications.

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    >>>> Mark Morris <mark..ac.com> 03/23/04 3:34 AM >>>
    > I just know I'm missing something obvious in your question, but isn't
    > the GUI builder for Java Client (not D2JC) just Interface Builder,
    > which
    > comes with the Mac OS X Developer Tools? Does using Eclipse preclude
    > its use?
    >
    > (Sorry if I'm missing the point. ;-)
    >
    > Regards,
    > Mark
    >
    > On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 03:00AM, Ashley Aitken
    > <aitken..bs.curtin.edu.au> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Howdy All,
    >>
    >> I trust this is not off topic.
    >>
    >> I am moving to Eclipse for the WebObjects server app. However, I am a
    >> little confused about what to do for the Java client application (not
    >> D2JC).
    >>
    >> Can anyone recommend a good GUI Builder plugin for Eclipse?
    >>
    >> I've checked out a few at the Eclipse plugins site but they seem to be
    >> either be commercial or open source beta quality (ie nothing like the
    >> quality of Eclipse itself, or WOLips).
    >>
    >> The alternative is to use something like the free version of JBuilder
    >> for the Java client application, but I hesitate to stretch to another
    >> IDE (although I have some experience with JBuilder).
    >>
    >> Any suggestions or pointers most appreciated.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >> Ashley Aitken.
    >>
    >>
    >>



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