Re: WO 5.3.1 licensing

From: wolip..atos.de
Date: Wed Nov 16 2005 - 09:01:13 EST

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    You give preaty good arguments Andrus.

    I definetly agree with you, i do not want to buy any mac at all.
    This is really not the point.

    My point is, if i were a judge, i will NOT accept any of your arguments,
    the license says only mac, and means it.
    This is not developer or human question, this point of view is clean.
    The legal point of view is also clean "at least for me" and says "Non-Mac is
    forbidden".

    Sako.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Andrus Adamchik" <andru..bjectstyle.org>
    To: <woproject-de..bjectstyle.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:49 PM
    Subject: Re: WO 5.3.1 licensing

    > If this bothers you, buy a Mac Mini, install WO and expose the jars
    > via Samba to your Windows machine :-)

    >
    > But I agree - it is ridiculous that programmers have to go into such
    > trouble to interpret the stupid license.
    >
    > "EOF references" in source code are definitely not controlled by the
    > Apple license (c'mon - do you seriously think that the day you
    > learned about NSArray, you soul belongs to Steve Jobs). Whether
    > *compiling* against WO jars is allowed under deployment license
    > (using javac and Eclipse) - that's not 100% clear, but I'd say it is.
    >
    > Say I write a super dynamic WO application where a user enters WO
    > template code in runtime, typing it in a web form for later rendering
    > as a WO component... Or another WO app with some embedded scripting
    > language with expressions compiled in runtime against WO jars. With
    > modern Java, compilation is a de-facto part of deployment (IIRC in
    > Java 1.6 there will be public compiler API available in runtime).
    >
    > Andrus
    >
    >
    > On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:50 PM, wolip..atos.de wrote:
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Andrus Adamchik" <andru..bjectstyle.org>
    > > To: <woproject-de..bjectstyle.org>
    > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:20 PM
    > > Subject: Re: WO 5.3.1 licensing
    > >
    > >
    > >> In other words Apple can't prohibit anyone from typing arbitrary
    > >> character sequences in a text editor, even if such sequences happen
    > >> to be Java code that uses WebObjects API.
    > >>
    > >
    > > You said it: "IANAL". Dont you use the EOF references?
    > > Dont you use the WO frameworks for creating your HTML stuff?
    > > Server, etc...
    > >
    > > If you want to say you dont use WO, then remove WO from your
    > > computer and
    > > then type CHARs in a text editor.
    > >
    > > I use WO 5.2.2 on windows. I think using WO with the new license is
    > > illegal.
    > >
    > > Sako.
    >
    >
    >



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