I guess a bigger negative point in the discussion is this - it is
cheaper and easier to buy Macs for your developers than to argue with
Apple in court. If your product/service revenues do not justify Mac
purchase, than litigation is probably not what you want either :-/
Hmm... I never resorted to anti-WO FUD to promote Cayenne, but now it
looks like there is no FUD in telling people to switch.
Andrus
On Nov 16, 2005, at 5:07 PM, David Teran wrote:
>> If this bothers you, buy a Mac Mini, install WO and expose the
>> jars via Samba to your Windows machine :-)
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> Yes, that would be a good idea, at least this is what apple likes
> you to do ;-)
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>> But I agree - it is ridiculous that programmers have to go into
>> such trouble to interpret the stupid license.
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>> "EOF references" in source code are definitely not controlled by
>> the Apple license (c'mon - do you seriously think that the day you
>> learned about NSArray, you soul belongs to Steve Jobs). Whether
>> *compiling* against WO jars is allowed under deployment license
>> (using javac and Eclipse) - that's not 100% clear, but I'd say it is.
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>> Say I write a super dynamic WO application where a user enters WO
>> template code in runtime, typing it in a web form for later
>> rendering as a WO component... Or another WO app with some
>> embedded scripting language with expressions compiled in runtime
>> against WO jars. With modern Java, compilation is a de-facto part
>> of deployment (IIRC in Java 1.6 there will be public compiler API
>> available in runtime).
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> Well, i think the intention is pretty clear to all of us:
> development only on mac os x, deployment free (and afaik also -for-
> free). While the definition of development and deployment is quite
> flexible i still think: its clear what development is and its clear
> what deployment is. A hyperdynamic WOApp which compiles classes at
> runtime from text entered in a WOText field and such things, at
> least clear to me: deployment. A person which sits in front of a
> computer running linux or windows, hitting the keyboard and
> triggering eclipse to do something, with the help of different
> plugIns like WOLIps, at least clear to meh: development.
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> But its up to apple to specify what development is and what not,
> but only if they care about this. I am not sure if they really care
> and at least for me its not important: i would -never never never-
> develop on linux or windows so i am happy.
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> my additional 2ct.
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> David
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