Ken Anderson wrote:
> I couldn't disagree with you more. WOBuilder might be a good entry
> level tool, but it is hardly used by seasoned WO users. It doesn't
> support a lot of what you need for good presentation on the web today.
It is a good entry level tool, and that's what none of the other web
application frameworks have.
Had WOBuilder been even better than it is today, some (more) of the
seasoned WO users would use it.
Once IDE:s like eclipse became good enough people actually did stop
using emacs.
> More importantly, it's the architecture and EOF that sets the framework
> apart from others... FAR apart.
There are many alternatives. Some of them seem ok to me.
Who is WO/WOLips for? Is it (only) for a limited and decreasing group of
seasoned users, or is it a platform that attracts new users?
/Anders
> On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
>
>> If WO looses WOBuilder because Apple doesn't use/need it themselves
>> and there is no (WOLips) replacement then WO looses what sets it apart
>> from all the other web application frameworks. Lets face it: Some of
>> the other frameworks are (also) great. What they don't have is a
>> collection of supporting tools. I think WOBuilder is the most
>> important tool, and it is the one thing missing from WOLips.
>>
>> Have look at this thread:
>>
>> http://www.nabble.com/WebObjects-open-source--tf2177391.html
>>
>> I'd say they're jealous of the WO-tools.
>>
>> /Anders
>>
>> Mike Schrag wrote:
>>> There is no direct replacement right now, and I suspect that iTMS
>>> people don't use it, so there's probably not a big push from that
>>> group to create a replacement. For now, I would carry on using
>>> WOBuilder if you like it -- it's not going anywhere for a while. As
>>> far as mid-to-long term, we have been discussing some possibilities
>>> here (at mDimension), but I don't know what, if anything, will come
>>> of it at the moment.
>>> ms
>>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
>>>> Works!
>>>>
>>>> Haven't used it much, but the Entity Modeler looks absolutely great.
>>>> I'm impressed!
>>>>
>>>> Now that Apple has deprecate all of its own WO tools; what will
>>>> replace WOBuilder? Wont they need a WOBuilder replacement for the
>>>> music store developers? Are you going to build that for them?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, /Anders
>>>>
>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>> Update now (to 3099) and see if that works.
>>>>> ms
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>>>> Hmm .. oddly our build server is building, but it's not pushing
>>>>>>> the new builds up to the public server. Let me look into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did get a new version (2.0.0.3096) but Entity Modeler still
>>>>>> fails to open, and the stack trace seems to be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 5:35 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes. One fetch spec is called "1910". /Anders
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do you have a fetch spec on Account whose name is a number?
>>>>>>>>> Grumble. I wish lots of hate on plist format and its
>>>>>>>>> typelessness.
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There should be a root cause of that exception -- that's just
>>>>>>>>>>> the wrapper exception. Can you see if the full exception
>>>>>>>>>>> (with root cause) appears somewhere?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --http://ojalgo.org/
>>>>
>>>> Mathematics, Linear Algebra and Optimisation with Java
>>
>>
>> --http://ojalgo.org/
>>
>> Mathematics, Linear Algebra and Optimisation with Java
>
>
-- http://ojalgo.org/Mathematics, Linear Algebra and Optimisation with Java
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