Re: project templates

From: Chuck Hill (chil..lobal-village.net)
Date: Wed Jun 06 2007 - 23:40:19 EDT

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    This is just about adopting a standard project layout that is really
    easy to use and add things to and does what one expects. Mike is NOT
    suggesting that everyone be forced to use Wonder (though he might
    also think that... ;-)

    Chuck

    On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Brendan Duddridge wrote:

    > We use Wonder on one of our projects, but the other one we don't.
    > Not that I don't want to, but we didn't use it from the start and I
    > think it would be a fair bit of work to convert it. It was some
    > work to convert our other project, but we didn't do as much crazy
    > stuff in that project as we do in our other. Anyway, as long as we
    > can still create projects that don't rely on Wonder.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
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    > On Jun 6, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
    >
    >> I'm thinking a preference setting "Use Project Wonder" which would
    >> enable that behavior, off by default.
    >>
    >> ms
    >>
    >> On Jun 6, 2007, at 11:15 PM, David LeBer wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 6-Jun-07, at 11:09 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Currently we have two primary templates that you can start a
    >>>> project with -- WOApplication/WOFramework and WOnder Application/
    >>>> WOnder Framework. I would like to propose that we just have one
    >>>> template set, and I propose that the one should be the WOnder
    >>>> style.
    >>>>
    >>>> In almost every respect it is better than the previous
    >>>> defaults. It's WAY easier for new folks to begin working on
    >>>> projects. You don't have to think about includes and excludes
    >>>> -- You just put things in the right folders and it works. Note
    >>>> that these templates really have nothing to do with Wonder, it
    >>>> just happens to be the Wonder project layout. Obviously this
    >>>> has zero impact on existing projects, only new projects going
    >>>> forward. At the very least, I believe Wonder should be the
    >>>> default style, but in the long run it's much less confusing to
    >>>> go ahead and scrap the original templates and present just the
    >>>> wonder versions.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have been building all of my projects with this for several
    >>>> months, and obviously Wonder itself uses them, and it really is
    >>>> painless in comparison ... With the non-Wonder templates, I
    >>>> always had to play the guessing game of wondering if resources/
    >>>> wsr will end up in the right place. With Wonder, it Just Works
    >>>> (TM). There is also the potential of being able to further
    >>>> integrate Wonder's very nice (thanks Anjo) ant build system in
    >>>> the future, but given that I mostly hate ant, I don't want to
    >>>> think too much about that part :)
    >>>
    >>> I've been using the Wonder templates for a while as well.
    >>>
    >>> I wouldn't miss the old ones if they went away.
    >>>
    >>> The Wonder templates set Application and Session to extend ERX*
    >>> right? Would that impact anyone negatively?
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> ;david
    >>>
    >>> --
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    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >

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