Re: "protected" attributes in Component .java files.

From: Tobias Crawley (tobia..luecollarsoftware.com)
Date: Tue Jul 03 2007 - 06:47:54 EDT

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    Does Eclipse 3.3 support changing the default signature for getters/
    setters? I much prefer the WO Way [ varname()/setVarname() ] vs. the
    Java Way. I know it is not possible with 3.2, or else Mike would have
    done it already.

    Tobias

    On Jul 3, 2007, at 3:21 AM, Ian Joyner wrote:

    > Anyway, a project with private and protected fields and lots of
    > errors in the .wod files will still run OK. If you consider that
    > the .wod spec is tightly bound to the class, you are not really
    > breaking encapsulation, because you might still want to hide those
    > fields from other classes. Thus fix from Mike will be appreciated –
    > I don't like ignoring errors because there might be a real one in
    > there. (So much for '()' breaking encapsulation and exposing
    > implementation!)
    >
    > Ian
    >
    > On 03/07/2007, at 10:47 AM, Ian Joyner wrote:
    >
    >> On 03/07/2007, at 10:19 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
    >>
    >>> Well, if you fix it, please do it _after_ you write the new
    >>> WOBuilder. ;)
    >>
    >> Nah, let him fix it now ;-) Just think if C-based languages didn't
    >> have that wacky '()' function call syntax, you wouldn't need
    >> getters at all!
    >>
    >> Ian
    >>
    >>>
    >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> It's a wolips bug for a particular case that eclipse people
    >>>> don't tend to run into, but wobuilder people do because wob
    >>>> generated kind of crappy java. I was not planning on fixing it,
    >>>> but I think I may just because it's only going to become more
    >>>> common as more people make the jump.
    >>>>
    >>>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:22 PM, David Avendasora
    >>>> <webobject..vendasora.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Oh, believe me, I don't want to change them to public, I'm just
    >>>>> trying to figure out why Eclipse (WOLips?) is complaining about
    >>>>> them being protected, when WOBuilder never did. I didn't know
    >>>>> if there was some configuration within Eclipse/WoLips that
    >>>>> would tell it that it was okay and not an error, or if I had
    >>>>> somehow set it up incorrectly.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> But it sounds like what is being said is that to make it (the
    >>>>> error flag) go away, you have to add public getters and
    >>>>> setters, right? I know it's easy in Eclipse, just wondering if
    >>>>> that's the right route.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Dave
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Janine Sisk wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 2:35 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> The problem I'm running into is that almost all the
    >>>>>>> attributes that
    >>>>>>> were setup in WOBuilder are "protected", and now Eclipse is
    >>>>>>> reporting
    >>>>>>> that the attributes don't exist. If I mark them as "public"
    >>>>>>> then the
    >>>>>>> problem goes away.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> What is the proper way to handle this?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I'm feeling an urge to channel Chuck....
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> He has taught me, forcefully :), that the right thing to do is
    >>>>>> to leave these protected and write getter and setter methods
    >>>>>> for them. Yes, it's kind of a pain. But he says that this
    >>>>>> protects you in the future; if you end up actually needing to
    >>>>>> use an accessor method then you can just modify the one that's
    >>>>>> already there instead of trying to track down all the places
    >>>>>> you accessed the variable directly. It's also better if you
    >>>>>> need to subclass in the future, I imagine for the same reason.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It's not quite as much work as it sounds; if your variable is
    >>>>>> named foo, and your getter and setter are foo() and setFoo()
    >>>>>> respectively, WO will find and use them automatically. So you
    >>>>>> don't have to change your bindings.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> janine
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >

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    Tobias Crawley
    tobia..luecollarsoftware.com
    



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