You mean like this?
On Oct 5, 2007, at 11:56 PM, Thomas wrote:
> It's amazing what you can do with CSS. I just opened the .html page
> from one of my components in Xyle Scope. My component uses only
> inline bindings. Below are three different views from Xyle Scope,
> after choosing three different style sheets in the preferences. And
> in any of these views, clicking on a block highlights that block in
> the three other inspection panels.
>
> I know it's a very long way to go from a WebKit display to editing,
> but what about the idea that when you click on a block (double
> click?), it takes you to the component source editor with that
> block selected?
>
> <pastedGraphic.png>
> <pastedGraphic.png>
> <pastedGraphic.png>
>
> On 05/10/2007, at 11:16 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>
>> Interesting ..... hey, while we are in brainstorming mode (who
>> knows, we may just throw out a simple effective, easy-to-
>> implement, attractive-to-Mike idea)
>>
>> Go to a site like http://www.mdimension.com and select View ->
>> View Source Chart in FireFox ....... this shows a very easy to
>> read page structure ...... and the styled borders really make it
>> easy to see what is in what ....... could the Preview be more
>> easily made to look like this "Source Chart" rendering that
>> FireFox does, and even be extendable with a CSS style sheet as
>> Thomas suggested?
>>
>>
>>
>> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>> <pastedGraphic.jpg>
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> As a user, and someone who has only contributed opinions to this
>>> awesome body of work, I'd like to offer yet another opinion.
>>>
>>> I am a visual person, apparently like 50% of the general
>>> population (and somewhat less than that for programmers). That
>>> means that I really need something that tells the right-
>>> hemisphere "spatial mapping and image recognition" area of my
>>> brain how it all fits together. I need to see that this box fits
>>> inside that one, and this box comes after that one, and this box
>>> looks like a conditional, and that box looks like a string, and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>> The outline view does not give me any of those visual cues, and
>>> is restricted to a vertical indented list. I can't see that
>>> adding a few features to it will help much-- although see the
>>> next paragraph for one change that would help.
>>>
>>> The Xyle scope approach gives the best of all worlds: a preview
>>> on the left, a finder/wobuilder cascading column view in the top
>>> right, and a very sophisticated outline view in the middle right.
>>> This outline view has three significant advantages over the
>>> WOLips component editor outline:
>>> - its decoration and style make it much more recognisable and
>>> readable;
>>> - it shows important attributes (and even some content) of the
>>> elements it is displaying
>>> - clicking on an element highlights it in the preview and column
>>> view panels, and vice-versa.
>>>
>>> If Mike could do that with Component Editor, I would be very
>>> happy, and so would those of my customers who develop Webobjects,
>>> rather than just use it. Most of them are technical managers,
>>> rather than programmers, and they all love WO Builder.
>>>
>>> I am sure it is hard to do this with static analysis. But I get
>>> the feeling that with some CSS work, the new preview output could
>>> be decorated to make it visually as useful as WO Builder.
>>>
>>> Mike, I don't know how you are generating the HTML for WebKit to
>>> display, but I imagine you are generating DIVs with appropriate
>>> classes. If you added the type of component as a class, eg <div
>>> class="woif">[if myCondition].....[/if myCondition]</div>, then
>>> each component type could have its own decoration, and some could
>>> show graphics. If you could send me an example of the HTML you
>>> are sending to WebKit, I could have a tinker and see if I could
>>> demonstrate what I mean. The beauty of this approach would be
>>> that developers could add their own style sheets for their own
>>> reusable components.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/10/2007, at 7:47 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>
>>>> I dunno, but it might be less work to build a few features into
>>>> the Outline view to make it even more useful as a component
>>>> navigation tool. It gives a nice "outline" of the component
>>>> structure which is really all one needs for the very reasons
>>>> Mike stated about CSS layout.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the Outline can be enhanced with less effort to give
>>>> even more visualization of the component structure.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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