Dear Jeremy:
Thanks for your response.
1) I like the ownership of the folder /Developer/Apps/eclipse (and all
files under) to be root:admin. I believe this is the way it should be.
2) The point (1) above works OK with Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
3) (1) works OK with Eclipse 3.4.2 without WOLips
4) (1) does NOT work after WOLips is installed in Eclipse 3.4,2 --- no
matter if with the install is done via the binary installer of via
Eclipse's Software Update Manager
5) The above comments assume that Eclipse is run by a non-admin user
6) Everything is fine in (4) if /Developer/Apps/eclipse and all files
under are owned by the user in (5)
So, the problem really seems related to file ownership and how WOLips
is installed into Eclipse 3.4.2 by the Software Update Manager. It may
be a bug in the Manager, in Eclipse, or is WOLips. Not sure. But see
(2) --- (4) above again.
Thanks
Rudy
On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
> Here's the thing....the all-in-one installer changes ownership on
> the Eclipse.app to root:admin, since most apps in /Developer/Apps
> have ownership set this way.
> Since /Developer is created when the WO frameworks are installed, it
> seems like a natural fit.
>
> And the Manual updates via Eclipse....well, that is beyond me.
>
> The BINARY installer includes a ton of useful stuff....the manual
> process does not (last time I checked).
> Here is the latest list of installed goodies with the binary
> installer:
>
> Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede)
> WOLips 3.4.5744 (new stable)
> EOGenerator Templates
> Standalone Entity Modeler
> Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler
> FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC
> Extension, and EOMBundle
> Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd
>
> Thanks,
> jeremy
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>
>> Dear Dave:
>>
>> Thanks for the advice. I think that this is what I will do. But
>> there is a general issue that troubles me:
>>
>> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 owned by root:admin
>> OK --- Eclipse works fine
>>
>> 2) Install WOLips with the Software Update Manager
>> Problem --- Eclipse does not start
>>
>> 3) Change ownership to the user who runs Eclipse
>> OK
>>
>>
>> So, it appears that
>>
>> 1) The bug is either WOLips or Eclipse 3.4.1, not the binary
>> installer
>> 2) We cannot have a system-wide installation of Eclipse 3.4.2 with
>> WOLips.
>>
>> I have to admit that I prefer system-wide install owned by the
>> admin, not me... Again, all is OK with Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
>>
>>
>> On a related note: When I install WOLips via the Software Update
>> Manager, does it include the binary apps like RuleModeler.app
>> etc....?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rudy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:01 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rudy,
>>>
>>> If you just want to get up and running, instead of using the all-
>>> in-one installer for now, you could just try downloading eclipse
>>> from eclipse.org instead. I install it in /Applications/eclipse.
>>>
>>> I am unfamiliar with the all-in-one installer, as are most on the
>>> list. The irony of the all-in-one is that if something goes wrong
>>> with the install, it is actually harder to troubleshoot.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Dave:
>>>>
>>>> I have installed everything from scratch several times. The
>>>> problem seems to be related to file permissions in Eclipse 3.4.2
>>>> after WOLips is installed. The installer installs Eclipse in /
>>>> Developer/Apps/eclipse and sets its ownership to root:admin. When
>>>> I change the ownership of the folder and all files inside to
>>>> myself, then all is OK. This problem occurs with WOLips installed
>>>> via the binary installer and via the Software Update Manager.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a summary:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>> 2. Eclipse 3.4.2 + WOLips binary install
>>>> Problem
>>>>
>>>> 3. Eclipse 3.4.2 + WOLips via Software Update Manager
>>>> a) Problem if files owned by root:admin
>>>> b) OK if files owned by me (the user running Eclipse, non-admin
>>>> account)
>>>>
>>>> I am still investigating. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rudy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:39 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rudy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried starting over with your install? It sounds like
>>>>> something has gone wrong with Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eclipse 3.4.2 should work just fine with WOLips Stable and
>>>>> certainly does with Nightly. I'd download Eclipse 3.4.2 again,
>>>>> then install WOLips using the Software Update Manager and see if
>>>>> that gets everything running for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally have not run into these problems, but I know that
>>>>> sometimes Eclipse just gets flakey and the best bet is to start
>>>>> over, including setting up a new workspace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:57 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear WOProject:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the same error message when I install WOLips using the
>>>>>> Eclipse Update Manager for Eclipse 3.4.2. The problem does not
>>>>>> appear when install WOLips in Eclipse 3.4.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki says: "Note: Eclipse 3.4.1 is the minimum requirement
>>>>>> for WOLips stable and recommended for nightly as well."
>>>>>> (page: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Install+WOLips+with+Eclipse+Update+Manager)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that 3.4.1 is the exact required version, not the
>>>>>> minimum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another possibility is that my case sensitive file system is at
>>>>>> fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, I seem to be up and running, but others might have
>>>>>> problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear WOProject:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this, but I
>>>>>>> could not find any contact addresses nor a bug tracking system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bug: The binary installer of WOLips has a problem with eclipse
>>>>>>> --- the GUI does not start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Error message: !MESSAGE Missing required bundle
>>>>>>> org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforuiplugins_0.0.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that there is a problem with the WOLips version string
>>>>>>> somewhere. Here is what I did:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Download http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674
>>>>>>> This the All-in one installer as listed on http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Installing+WOLips
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Start Eclipse. The above error message appears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. I have tried to run "eclipse -initialize" as the admin,
>>>>>>> but no luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, I thought that this issue might be important ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Side Note: The installer also overwrote my FrontBase license
>>>>>>> file. Ooops. My fault, but still, I was surprised...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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