Re: All-In-One Installer bug

From: Q (qdola..mail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 18 2009 - 19:31:42 EDT

  • Next message: Rudolf B. Blažek: "Re: All-In-One Installer bug"

    On 18/06/2009, at 10:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:

    > Here's the thing....the all-in-one installer changes ownership on
    > the Eclipse.app to root:admin, since most apps in /Developer/Apps
    > have ownership set this way.
    > Since /Developer is created when the WO frameworks are installed, it
    > seems like a natural fit.

    Unlike "proper" mac apps which use ~/Library/* for runtime config,
    eclipse directly modifies files and folders located within the
    'eclipse' folder itself and therefore should have suitable ownership
    and/or permissions to be writeable by the user or it will not function
    correctly.

    > And the Manual updates via Eclipse....well, that is beyond me.
    >
    > The BINARY installer includes a ton of useful stuff....the manual
    > process does not (last time I checked).
    > Here is the latest list of installed goodies with the binary
    > installer:
    >
    > Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede)
    > WOLips 3.4.5744 (new stable)
    > EOGenerator Templates
    > Standalone Entity Modeler
    > Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler
    > FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC
    > Extension, and EOMBundle
    > Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd
    >
    > Thanks,
    > jeremy
    >
    > On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >
    >> Dear Dave:
    >>
    >> Thanks for the advice. I think that this is what I will do. But
    >> there is a general issue that troubles me:
    >>
    >> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 owned by root:admin
    >> OK --- Eclipse works fine
    >>
    >> 2) Install WOLips with the Software Update Manager
    >> Problem --- Eclipse does not start
    >>
    >> 3) Change ownership to the user who runs Eclipse
    >> OK
    >>
    >>
    >> So, it appears that
    >>
    >> 1) The bug is either WOLips or Eclipse 3.4.1, not the binary
    >> installer
    >> 2) We cannot have a system-wide installation of Eclipse 3.4.2 with
    >> WOLips.
    >>
    >> I have to admit that I prefer system-wide install owned by the
    >> admin, not me... Again, all is OK with Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
    >>
    >>
    >> On a related note: When I install WOLips via the Software Update
    >> Manager, does it include the binary apps like RuleModeler.app
    >> etc....?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >> Rudy
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:01 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi Rudy,
    >>>
    >>> If you just want to get up and running, instead of using the all-
    >>> in-one installer for now, you could just try downloading eclipse
    >>> from eclipse.org instead. I install it in /Applications/eclipse.
    >>>
    >>> I am unfamiliar with the all-in-one installer, as are most on the
    >>> list. The irony of the all-in-one is that if something goes wrong
    >>> with the install, it is actually harder to troubleshoot.
    >>>
    >>> Dave
    >>>
    >>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Dear Dave:
    >>>>
    >>>> I have installed everything from scratch several times. The
    >>>> problem seems to be related to file permissions in Eclipse 3.4.2
    >>>> after WOLips is installed. The installer installs Eclipse in /
    >>>> Developer/Apps/eclipse and sets its ownership to root:admin. When
    >>>> I change the ownership of the folder and all files inside to
    >>>> myself, then all is OK. This problem occurs with WOLips installed
    >>>> via the binary installer and via the Software Update Manager.
    >>>>
    >>>> Here is a summary:
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
    >>>> OK
    >>>>
    >>>> 2. Eclipse 3.4.2 + WOLips binary install
    >>>> Problem
    >>>>
    >>>> 3. Eclipse 3.4.2 + WOLips via Software Update Manager
    >>>> a) Problem if files owned by root:admin
    >>>> b) OK if files owned by me (the user running Eclipse, non-admin
    >>>> account)
    >>>>
    >>>> I am still investigating. Any ideas would be appreciated.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks
    >>>> Rudy
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:39 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hi Rudy,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Have you tried starting over with your install? It sounds like
    >>>>> something has gone wrong with Eclipse.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Eclipse 3.4.2 should work just fine with WOLips Stable and
    >>>>> certainly does with Nightly. I'd download Eclipse 3.4.2 again,
    >>>>> then install WOLips using the Software Update Manager and see if
    >>>>> that gets everything running for you.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I personally have not run into these problems, but I know that
    >>>>> sometimes Eclipse just gets flakey and the best bet is to start
    >>>>> over, including setting up a new workspace.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Dave
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:57 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Dear WOProject:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I get the same error message when I install WOLips using the
    >>>>>> Eclipse Update Manager for Eclipse 3.4.2. The problem does not
    >>>>>> appear when install WOLips in Eclipse 3.4.1.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The wiki says: "Note: Eclipse 3.4.1 is the minimum requirement
    >>>>>> for WOLips stable and recommended for nightly as well."
    >>>>>> (page: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Install+WOLips+with+Eclipse+Update+Manager)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It appears that 3.4.1 is the exact required version, not the
    >>>>>> minimum.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Another possibility is that my case sensitive file system is at
    >>>>>> fault.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> In any case, I seem to be up and running, but others might have
    >>>>>> problem...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks
    >>>>>> Rudy
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Dear WOProject:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this, but I
    >>>>>>> could not find any contact addresses nor a bug tracking system.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Bug: The binary installer of WOLips has a problem with eclipse
    >>>>>>> --- the GUI does not start.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Error message: !MESSAGE Missing required bundle
    >>>>>>> org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforuiplugins_0.0.0.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Details:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I think that there is a problem with the WOLips version string
    >>>>>>> somewhere. Here is what I did:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 1. Download http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674
    >>>>>>> This the All-in one installer as listed on http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Installing+WOLips
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 2. Start Eclipse. The above error message appears.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 3. I have tried to run "eclipse -initialize" as the admin,
    >>>>>>> but no luck.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Anyway, I thought that this issue might be important ..
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Thanks
    >>>>>>> Rudy
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Side Note: The installer also overwrote my FrontBase license
    >>>>>>> file. Ooops. My fault, but still, I was surprised...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>
    >

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    Seeya...Q
    

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