On 18/06/2009, at 10:17 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
> Here's the thing....the all-in-one installer changes ownership on
> the Eclipse.app to root:admin, since most apps in /Developer/Apps
> have ownership set this way.
> Since /Developer is created when the WO frameworks are installed, it
> seems like a natural fit.
Unlike "proper" mac apps which use ~/Library/* for runtime config,
eclipse directly modifies files and folders located within the
'eclipse' folder itself and therefore should have suitable ownership
and/or permissions to be writeable by the user or it will not function
correctly.
> And the Manual updates via Eclipse....well, that is beyond me.
>
> The BINARY installer includes a ton of useful stuff....the manual
> process does not (last time I checked).
> Here is the latest list of installed goodies with the binary
> installer:
>
> Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede)
> WOLips 3.4.5744 (new stable)
> EOGenerator Templates
> Standalone Entity Modeler
> Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler
> FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC
> Extension, and EOMBundle
> Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd
>
> Thanks,
> jeremy
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>
>> Dear Dave:
>>
>> Thanks for the advice. I think that this is what I will do. But
>> there is a general issue that troubles me:
>>
>> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 owned by root:admin
>> OK --- Eclipse works fine
>>
>> 2) Install WOLips with the Software Update Manager
>> Problem --- Eclipse does not start
>>
>> 3) Change ownership to the user who runs Eclipse
>> OK
>>
>>
>> So, it appears that
>>
>> 1) The bug is either WOLips or Eclipse 3.4.1, not the binary
>> installer
>> 2) We cannot have a system-wide installation of Eclipse 3.4.2 with
>> WOLips.
>>
>> I have to admit that I prefer system-wide install owned by the
>> admin, not me... Again, all is OK with Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
>>
>>
>> On a related note: When I install WOLips via the Software Update
>> Manager, does it include the binary apps like RuleModeler.app
>> etc....?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rudy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:01 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rudy,
>>>
>>> If you just want to get up and running, instead of using the all-
>>> in-one installer for now, you could just try downloading eclipse
>>> from eclipse.org instead. I install it in /Applications/eclipse.
>>>
>>> I am unfamiliar with the all-in-one installer, as are most on the
>>> list. The irony of the all-in-one is that if something goes wrong
>>> with the install, it is actually harder to troubleshoot.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Dave:
>>>>
>>>> I have installed everything from scratch several times. The
>>>> problem seems to be related to file permissions in Eclipse 3.4.2
>>>> after WOLips is installed. The installer installs Eclipse in /
>>>> Developer/Apps/eclipse and sets its ownership to root:admin. When
>>>> I change the ownership of the folder and all files inside to
>>>> myself, then all is OK. This problem occurs with WOLips installed
>>>> via the binary installer and via the Software Update Manager.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a summary:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Eclipse 3.4.1 + WOLips
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>> 2. Eclipse 3.4.2 + WOLips binary install
>>>> Problem
>>>>
>>>> 3. Eclipse 3.4.2 + WOLips via Software Update Manager
>>>> a) Problem if files owned by root:admin
>>>> b) OK if files owned by me (the user running Eclipse, non-admin
>>>> account)
>>>>
>>>> I am still investigating. Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rudy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:39 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rudy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried starting over with your install? It sounds like
>>>>> something has gone wrong with Eclipse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eclipse 3.4.2 should work just fine with WOLips Stable and
>>>>> certainly does with Nightly. I'd download Eclipse 3.4.2 again,
>>>>> then install WOLips using the Software Update Manager and see if
>>>>> that gets everything running for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally have not run into these problems, but I know that
>>>>> sometimes Eclipse just gets flakey and the best bet is to start
>>>>> over, including setting up a new workspace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:57 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear WOProject:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the same error message when I install WOLips using the
>>>>>> Eclipse Update Manager for Eclipse 3.4.2. The problem does not
>>>>>> appear when install WOLips in Eclipse 3.4.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki says: "Note: Eclipse 3.4.1 is the minimum requirement
>>>>>> for WOLips stable and recommended for nightly as well."
>>>>>> (page: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Install+WOLips+with+Eclipse+Update+Manager)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that 3.4.1 is the exact required version, not the
>>>>>> minimum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another possibility is that my case sensitive file system is at
>>>>>> fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, I seem to be up and running, but others might have
>>>>>> problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear WOProject:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this, but I
>>>>>>> could not find any contact addresses nor a bug tracking system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bug: The binary installer of WOLips has a problem with eclipse
>>>>>>> --- the GUI does not start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Error message: !MESSAGE Missing required bundle
>>>>>>> org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforuiplugins_0.0.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that there is a problem with the WOLips version string
>>>>>>> somewhere. Here is what I did:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Download http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674
>>>>>>> This the All-in one installer as listed on http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Installing+WOLips
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Start Eclipse. The above error message appears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. I have tried to run "eclipse -initialize" as the admin,
>>>>>>> but no luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, I thought that this issue might be important ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Side Note: The installer also overwrote my FrontBase license
>>>>>>> file. Ooops. My fault, but still, I was surprised...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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