Re: All-In-One Installer bug

From: David Avendasora (webobject..vendasora.com)
Date: Fri Jun 19 2009 - 19:40:54 EDT

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    On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:30 PM, D Tim Cummings wrote:

    > I am often logging in as different users both wanting to use
    > eclipse. This has caused problems for eclipse since 3.2. I solved
    > the problem by each user having their own eclipse install in their
    > home directory. e.g.,
    >
    > /Users/tim/Applications/eclipse

    Uhg. That must make updates and configuration incredibly painful
    (redundant).

    Can't you give the staff group write privileges to the /Applications/
    eclipse directory? Won't that let _any_ user use it. Now, having two
    users simultaneously using eclipse would still be a problem....

    Dave

    >
    > Tim
    >
    >
    >
    > On 20/06/2009, at 1:38 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
    >
    >>>
    >>> So I was thinking the installer should do the same, i.e. make sure
    >>> the user owns everything in there.
    >>>
    >>> :-)
    >>
    >> But what if you log in as a different user than the one you
    >> installed it as?
    >>
    >> Dave
    >>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> soooo....what should we do here (at least for the binary instaler)?
    >>>> Anyone?
    >>>> Bueller?
    >>>>
    >>>> We'd like to be careful about giving too many options, or doing
    >>>> to much on a per-user basis...I suppose we could add a simple app/
    >>>> script to change permissions, but it seems like more of an
    >>>> eclipse thing...not sure if its wise to fight it.
    >>>>
    >>>> -j
    >>>>
    >>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> 3.5 won't load them either, but with ZERO debug information. It
    >>>>> shows that it knows they're there, but they just aren't
    >>>>> activated. WTF.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> verified btw ... no idea why it's failing now. yay for osgi.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Dear Q, forgive me, if my reply is too long:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Here is what fails:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 into e.g. /Developer/Applications/
    >>>>>>> eclipse
    >>>>>>> 2) Change the ownership of the install folder to root:admin
    >>>>>>> chown -R root:admin /Developer/Applications/eclipse
    >>>>>>> 3) Start Eclipse as a non-admin user
    >>>>>>> At this point Eclipse works OK. It will use ~/.eclipse/ for
    >>>>>>> user-based config files
    >>>>>>> 4) Install WOLips using the Software Manager in Eclipse
    >>>>>>> Eclipse will fail to start when restarted at the end of the
    >>>>>>> installation of WOLips
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Here is what works:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 into e.g. /Developer/Applications/
    >>>>>>> eclipse
    >>>>>>> 2) Change the ownership of the install folder to your account
    >>>>>>> (non-admin joeuser)
    >>>>>>> chown -R joeuser:joeuser /Developer/Applications/eclipse
    >>>>>>> 3) Start Eclipse as joeuser
    >>>>>>> 4) Install WOLips using the Software Manager in Eclipse
    >>>>>>> At this point Eclipse works OK.
    >>>>>>> It will NEVER use ~/.eclipse/ for user-based config files.
    >>>>>>> The folder ~/.eclipse/ is not even created.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Thanks for trying to reproduce this. I appreciate it.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Best regards
    >>>>>>> Rudy
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Q wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 19/06/2009, at 4:32 PM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> That is the point --- it does NOT work with 3.4.2
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Ok, just verifying that when 3.4.2 is installed manually (as
    >>>>>>>> opposed to using the AIO installer) it still fails.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I will try to reproduce the problem when I get a chance.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Q wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2009, at 2:59 PM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> B) If several users need to use Eclipse with WOLips, use
    >>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse 3.4.1
    >>>>>>>>>>> --- Install Eclipse 3.4.1 into e.g. /Developer/
    >>>>>>>>>>> Applications/eclipse
    >>>>>>>>>>> --- Change the ownership of the install folder to root:admin
    >>>>>>>>>>> chown -R root:admin /Developer/Applications/eclipse
    >>>>>>>>>>> --- Install WOLips using the Software Manager in Eclipse
    >>>>>>>>>>> --- Eclipse 3.4.1 will use the ~/.eclipse folder
    >>>>>>>>>>> correctly, AFAIK
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Does this technique not work with 3.4.2?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>> Seeya...Q
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Quinton Dolan - qdola..mail.com
    >>>>>>>>>> Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10)
    >>>>>>>>>> Ph: +61 419 729 806
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>> Seeya...Q
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Quinton Dolan - qdola..mail.com
    >>>>>>>> Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10)
    >>>>>>>> Ph: +61 419 729 806
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>
    >



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