I can allow for installation in the /Users/myusername/Applications
folder....but that would make life....interesting...
-j
On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:20 PM, D Tim Cummings wrote:
>
> On 20/06/2009, at 9:40 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:30 PM, D Tim Cummings wrote:
>>
>>> I am often logging in as different users both wanting to use
>>> eclipse. This has caused problems for eclipse since 3.2. I
>>> solved the problem by each user having their own eclipse install
>>> in their home directory. e.g.,
>>>
>>> /Users/tim/Applications/eclipse
>>
>> Uhg. That must make updates and configuration incredibly painful
>> (redundant).
>>
>> Can't you give the staff group write privileges to the /
>> Applications/eclipse directory? Won't that let _any_ user use it.
>> Now, having two users simultaneously using eclipse would still be a
>> problem....
>>
>> Dave
>>
> I always install updates by downloading the eclipse archived update
> site first and then installing when not connected to internet.
>
> I tried with eclipse 3.2 to set group write privileges, but when new
> files were created (eg installing a software update) the umask was
> wrong and the new files weren't group writeable. I can't remember
> exactly, but I think this meant that if one user did the first
> update, another user couldn't do the second update.
>
> Anyway, now one of the reason's for having different users is to be
> able to have different configurations. One user can test new wolips
> without potentially halting work on all the other users' projects.
>
> Tim
>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/06/2009, at 1:38 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I was thinking the installer should do the same, i.e. make
>>>>> sure the user owns everything in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> But what if you log in as a different user than the one you
>>>> installed it as?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> soooo....what should we do here (at least for the binary
>>>>>> instaler)?
>>>>>> Anyone?
>>>>>> Bueller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'd like to be careful about giving too many options, or doing
>>>>>> to much on a per-user basis...I suppose we could add a simple
>>>>>> app/script to change permissions, but it seems like more of an
>>>>>> eclipse thing...not sure if its wise to fight it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -j
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3.5 won't load them either, but with ZERO debug information.
>>>>>>> It shows that it knows they're there, but they just aren't
>>>>>>> activated. WTF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> verified btw ... no idea why it's failing now. yay for osgi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Q, forgive me, if my reply is too long:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is what fails:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 into e.g. /Developer/Applications/
>>>>>>>>> eclipse
>>>>>>>>> 2) Change the ownership of the install folder to root:admin
>>>>>>>>> chown -R root:admin /Developer/Applications/eclipse
>>>>>>>>> 3) Start Eclipse as a non-admin user
>>>>>>>>> At this point Eclipse works OK. It will use ~/.eclipse/ for
>>>>>>>>> user-based config files
>>>>>>>>> 4) Install WOLips using the Software Manager in Eclipse
>>>>>>>>> Eclipse will fail to start when restarted at the end of the
>>>>>>>>> installation of WOLips
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is what works:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) Install Eclipse 3.4.2 into e.g. /Developer/Applications/
>>>>>>>>> eclipse
>>>>>>>>> 2) Change the ownership of the install folder to your
>>>>>>>>> account (non-admin joeuser)
>>>>>>>>> chown -R joeuser:joeuser /Developer/Applications/
>>>>>>>>> eclipse
>>>>>>>>> 3) Start Eclipse as joeuser
>>>>>>>>> 4) Install WOLips using the Software Manager in Eclipse
>>>>>>>>> At this point Eclipse works OK.
>>>>>>>>> It will NEVER use ~/.eclipse/ for user-based config files.
>>>>>>>>> The folder ~/.eclipse/ is not even created.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for trying to reproduce this. I appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>> Rudy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Q wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2009, at 4:32 PM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is the point --- it does NOT work with 3.4.2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, just verifying that when 3.4.2 is installed manually
>>>>>>>>>> (as opposed to using the AIO installer) it still fails.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will try to reproduce the problem when I get a chance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Q wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2009, at 2:59 PM, Rudolf B. Blažek wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> B) If several users need to use Eclipse with WOLips, use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse 3.4.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Install Eclipse 3.4.1 into e.g. /Developer/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Applications/eclipse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Change the ownership of the install folder to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> root:admin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chown -R root:admin /Developer/Applications/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eclipse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Install WOLips using the Software Manager in Eclipse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Eclipse 3.4.1 will use the ~/.eclipse folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly, AFAIK
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this technique not work with 3.4.2?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeya...Q
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quinton Dolan - qdola..mail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: +61 419 729 806
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Seeya...Q
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quinton Dolan - qdola..mail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10)
>>>>>>>>>> Ph: +61 419 729 806
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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