Re: maclike vs eclipselike

From: Mike Schrag (mschra..dimension.com)
Date: Sat Oct 03 2009 - 15:33:11 EDT

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    > So, it is just not worth it to worry about how to make an eclipse
    > plug-in do something un-eclipse-like.
    It's worth it to me :)

    > Things like multiple object selection (shift-click on a Mac) seem to
    > just be completely missing from eclipse and I do not know what to do
    > about that.
    Hmm ... Where are you referring to? Multiple object EDITING
    definitely is not very common, as much because it's just hard and
    tedious to do right, but multiple selection should work?

    > And for instance, double-click on something in a WOComponent and the
    > selection that results is completely random and often obviously
    > wrong. Not sure what to do about that either.
    File Jiras ... If something is obviously wrong, tell us what should be
    right. I'm not saying we'll fix it, but if something has spent some
    time to think through what the right behavior SHOULD be in a way that
    we can actually code to that spec, it greatly increases the odds of
    getting fixed.

    > And remember Mac apps sometimes do not get Inspector windows right.
    > The Inspector window in IB is particularly bad, if you want to see
    > some weird crap going on. Is it an inspector? When the focus
    > changes, what happens to it? When does it close or not close? That
    > kind of stuff.
    At least in Snow Leopard IB, it seems pretty good to me. I think
    object selection in IB sucks, but they have that nasty nested
    component problem to wrangle, so I at least understand why it sort of
    sucks.

    > Anyway. Eclipse sucks (at times), but waiting for Apple to fix bugs
    > in a java IDE would be far, far worse.
    My point is that if everyone thinks Eclipse sucks (at times :) ), we
    shouldn't accept that. When Eclipse screws up focus management, it
    makes me want to punch it, and it's been broken for ... coming up on a
    decade now.

    ms



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