On Oct 2, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
> It would work like inspectors on normal Mac apps -- it would just be
> "Inspector Window" ... you wouldn't close and reopen for each one,
> it would change with selection (like old EOModeler).
So it would continue to float over the other Eclipse windows?
> Technically you can tear off the current view, but the layout is
> undesirable for an inspector panel.
A major problem of using tear-off windows is that the menu bar
disappears when the tear-off has focus. All you have is the Eclipse
menu and everything else goes away. Would this new inspector exhibit
the same behavior? Also, can you switch focus easily with an inspector
using cmd-`? If you can, will the focus default to the same field that
was previously selected or would it default to the first one?
> This kind of goes back to the main question of whether we're an
> Eclipse app or a Mac app. If we're a Mac app, I think there's no
> question that this should be a separator inspector window -- You
> really don't see embedded inspector views very often on the Mac.
I think it is really an eclipse app. As much as I'd love a Mac UI WO
IDE, we have eclipse, and having some components behave mac-like and
others not, is just confusing over-all.
What about making more of the columns in the list view editable, and
make the tab/enter order more logical? For example, I like that when I
edit a prototype, I can simply hit return and it will make the change
and select the prototype field of the next attribute.
I think a keyboard shortcut for new attributes and relationships, that
then puts focus on the attribute/relationship name in the list view
and then being able to complete the attribute definition without
needing to go back to the mouse would be an incredible increase to
usability. More so than splitting off the properties pane.
Oh, and maybe the ability to add and remove columns by right-clicking
on the column headers?
> I'm undecided on it at the moment. Just something I'm tossing around.
I think having the properties pane in Entity Modeler is the right
place for it, but I think there are other possible UI improvements
that would provide for a more streamlined workflow and that's the most
important thing.
Dave.
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> On Oct 2, 2009, at 3:34 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
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>> I often step through attributes and relationships to check/set
>> things, I don't want to have to open the inspector and then close
>> it again when I'm done only to reopen it on the next attribute.
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>> Maybe making it so it is it's own pane like the console might be
>> better so those that want it separate and not taking up space in
>> the main window could move it or close it.
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>> Dave
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>> On Oct 2, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
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>>> http://skitch.com/mikeschrag/nbwcr/eclipse
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>>> On Oct 2, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
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>>>> I've been _contemplating_ pulling the properties panel out of
>>>> Entity Modeler and moving to an Inspector-style approach ... This
>>>> is VERY un-eclipse, though. How do people feel about this?
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