Thanks, Xavier
Just wondering, to you relayout the model at every import into OmniGraffle again?
I will do an official request for the diagram view :-)
Regards, Robert
On 05.10.2010, at 10:53, Dev WO wrote:
> When I'm searching in Jira about this, I can't find anything.
> Robert, you should log something in Jira for WOLips
> http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa
> At least it would come up on top for the committers and maybe someone will find this not a big deal to handle and work on it. At least it doesn't harm, and eventually if it's not done you would be able to say "I officially requested it".
>
> Xavier
>
> PS: You are not alone, we also sometimes need the diagram view and print a model, but it's not that often so we don't feel the OmniGraffle limitations to be that much painful.
>
>> Hello Xavier
>>
>> Yes, I tried the hints and tips I got on this list, but I can't achieve a useful result, because:
>>
>> - OmniGraffle does not give me a useful auto layout result of our diagrams, so I would have to layout the model once. I even would do that once. But obviously, I can't do that after each model change and reimport into OmniGraffle. May be I just didn't find where I can tell OmniGraffle to "store" the last layout and use that layout for the next import. The situation would be less of a problem with 10 or 20 entities, but impossible with the current 110 entities our biggest model consists of.
>>
>> What upsets me somewhat is that on this list I got the impression that all developers think that the diagram view of the old EOModeler is (was) not of any use and therefor no attempt is made to make it available in the new Entity Modeler. But we just really need that view for our work. Firstly because for certain work it's much easier to work with it (that seems to be individual, though), secondly to be able to create a PDF of the model and be able to print it out. And lastly, the diagram view has to be in the same tool, it's not at all convenient to export from Entity Modeler and import into OmniGraffle.
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>> As everyone on this list seems to work in another fashion, to check I talked to all of my developer colleagues to ask if they have and need a diagram view and the answer was they have it in their tool and need that view as well for modeling. Also all the tools I looked at like SQL Power Architect, Aqua Data Studio, MySQL Workbench, ... have such a view.
>>
>> We very much like to stay with the Entity Modeler as it's a real exceptional tool except for the mentioned part. We also would be happy just to have the diagram view without any auto layout etc. functionality, as they don't seem to work anyway for bigger models.
>>
>> I love to hear good advices :-)
>>
>> Best regards, Robert
>>
>> PS: I also don't want to annoy people on this list with my diagram view problem and so I was looking for another ERM tool, but did not find one where I can import an.eomodel file. And we can't afford to redesign everything from scratch in a new tool.
>>
>>
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>> On 05.10.2010, at 08:59, Dev WO wrote:
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>>> Hello Robert,
>>>
>>> Did you try OmniGraffle to print your eomodel diagram?
>>> You might be able to get rid of your 10.4 computer.
>>>
>>> Xavier
>>>
>>> On 5 oct. 2010, at 08:42, "Robert Huber..7r" <huber@seven-r.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying there is a new "All-In-One Turn-Key Installer" coming? That would really be very much appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> We are using Mac OS X 10.6. except one machine with 10.4.11 to still be able to use the diagram view of the (old) EOModeler to print out the entity model.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Robert
>>>>
>>>> On 05.10.2010, at 05:02, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I assume you'll be announcing the build that is "gm"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Love to update the installer...been working out a few kinks in preparation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also...everyone still going carbon, or is it finally cocoa time for eclipse?
>>>>>
>>>>> -j
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thumbs-down for a 3.6 Stable build?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ms
>>>>>
>>>>>
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