Re: Apache voted no on JPA 2.0 JSR

From: Andrus Adamchik (andru..bjectstyle.org)
Date: Wed Aug 01 2007 - 03:37:13 EDT

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    A discussion is currently going on jcp-open [1]. I asked to join this
    JSR EG in the past (before the JSR was open for review and before the
    latest row over the JCP process). But now I guess this is up in the air.

    The situation is not a pleasant one for the ASF, as taking a
    principled stand has already drawn the criticism of being
    "childish" [2] and it would hurt the existing projects (us included).
    It is all other companies that sorta support ASF, but are still going
    along with JCP will be the winners either way.

    Andrus

    [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200707.mbox/
    %3c04E07DE6-6AAF-42D9-BBEA-3A4AFFFBB41..obox.com%3e
    [2] http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=46406

    On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:48 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
    > On 01/08/2007, at 2:29 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
    >
    >> FYI:
    >>
    >> As this affects Cayenne, I am posting an update to our dev list.
    >> JSR-317 is the JSR to develop JPA 2.0. Following a discussion on
    >> the jcp-open, ASF voted "NO" on the JSR-317 review:
    >>
    >> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=4329
    >>
    >> It is unclear at this point what our prospects are on getting
    >> access to the JSR-317 certification (it should not affect JSR-220
    >> work we are currently doing), but regardless of that I personally
    >> support nudging Sun to really open Java Community Process.
    >
    > It is very interesting to see Intel, IBM and Redhat strongly
    > supporting Apache's position on this. Excellent.
    >
    > Even though Apache voted no, this JSR will go forward. What is the
    > Apache position on being part of the expert group? (By the way, is
    > Apache/OpenJPA/Cayenne PMC/Cayenne committers/Andrus on the expert
    > group? Is it a per person thing or an organisation thing?) I
    > understand and agree with Apache's position on the openness of the
    > TCK, however it appears that JSR-317 will have an open TCK and
    > there should be no licensing reason not to use it.
    >
    > It is one thing to make a stand, but this might become an important
    > JSR to implement in the future, so we can't ignore it.
    >
    >
    > Ari Maniatis
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