Re: Can't open EOModeler (WOLIps version)

From: Ken Anderson (list..nderhome.com)
Date: Fri Sep 01 2006 - 09:10:41 EDT

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    I couldn't disagree with you more. WOBuilder might be a good entry
    level tool, but it is hardly used by seasoned WO users. It doesn't
    support a lot of what you need for good presentation on the web today.

    More importantly, it's the architecture and EOF that sets the
    framework apart from others... FAR apart.

    Ken

    On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:

    > If WO looses WOBuilder because Apple doesn't use/need it themselves
    > and there is no (WOLips) replacement then WO looses what sets it
    > apart from all the other web application frameworks. Lets face it:
    > Some of the other frameworks are (also) great. What they don't have
    > is a collection of supporting tools. I think WOBuilder is the most
    > important tool, and it is the one thing missing from WOLips.
    >
    > Have look at this thread:
    >
    > http://www.nabble.com/WebObjects-open-source--tf2177391.html
    >
    > I'd say they're jealous of the WO-tools.
    >
    > /Anders
    >
    > Mike Schrag wrote:
    >> There is no direct replacement right now, and I suspect that iTMS
    >> people don't use it, so there's probably not a big push from that
    >> group to create a replacement. For now, I would carry on using
    >> WOBuilder if you like it -- it's not going anywhere for a while.
    >> As far as mid-to-long term, we have been discussing some
    >> possibilities here (at mDimension), but I don't know what, if
    >> anything, will come of it at the moment.
    >> ms
    >> On Aug 31, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
    >>> Works!
    >>>
    >>> Haven't used it much, but the Entity Modeler looks absolutely
    >>> great. I'm impressed!
    >>>
    >>> Now that Apple has deprecate all of its own WO tools; what will
    >>> replace WOBuilder? Wont they need a WOBuilder replacement for the
    >>> music store developers? Are you going to build that for them?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks, /Anders
    >>>
    >>> Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>> Update now (to 3099) and see if that works.
    >>>> ms
    >>>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
    >>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>>>> Hmm .. oddly our build server is building, but it's not
    >>>>>> pushing the new builds up to the public server. Let me look
    >>>>>> into it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I did get a new version (2.0.0.3096) but Entity Modeler still
    >>>>> fails to open, and the stack trace seems to be the same.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Aug 31, 2006, at 5:35 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
    >>>>>>> Yes. One fetch spec is called "1910". /Anders
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Do you have a fetch spec on Account whose name is a number?
    >>>>>>>> Grumble. I wish lots of hate on plist format and its
    >>>>>>>> typelessness.
    >>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Anders Peterson wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Mike Schrag wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> There should be a root cause of that exception -- that's
    >>>>>>>>>> just the wrapper exception. Can you see if the full
    >>>>>>>>>> exception (with root cause) appears somewhere?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --http://ojalgo.org/
    >>>
    >>> Mathematics, Linear Algebra and Optimisation with Java
    >
    >
    > --
    > http://ojalgo.org/
    >
    > Mathematics, Linear Algebra and Optimisation with Java



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